Hawley 'Pleasantly Surprised' By Implementation of New Rules

Hawley said that the airport security change that took place earlier this week has been implemented without major problems or new delays.


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RENO - Prior to Monday's announcement by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) on the modification of the ban on carry-on liquids and gels, the agency met with some airport directors and airlines on Sept. 8 to provide them with a classified briefing on possible procedural rule changes.

In an exclusive interview with AirportBusiness.com, Assistant Secretary for TSA Kip Hawley said the agency had been working since Aug. 10 to refine the total ban on liquids. Working with security and intelligence officials in the United Kingdom and Canada, the agency tested the amount of liquids and gels that could be safely carried onto a plan and not pose a threat. Explosive tests were conducted as part of the research. TSA's operations staff was involved in crafting the protocols that led to the zip-lock bag solution.

''We became confident that with these small amounts we could lift the total ban. The issue of the 3 ounces and the quart-size zip-lock bag is that we would be well within the risk of tolerance,'' he said.

In the Sept. 8 classified briefing for the airport directors, Hawley said the TSA discussed the changes in general, but the airports were not involved in the protocol testing. ''We didn't want it out there publicly about the changes,'' he added. In that meeting, he noted, the airports were frank in describing the problems there were experiencing with the total ban. ''We had a good back and forth,'' Hawley said.

''We did not disclose the exact timing. We worked with the airports, the airlines and our own people to train them.''

Since the change took place earlier this week, Hawley said the modification has been implemented without major problems or new delays. ''I am pleasantly surprised,'' he said, noting that he got up at 3 a.m. Tuesday in anticipation of problems.

''I have been to several dozen check-points since the announcement to see how it is working. I have been through several check-points myself with my baggie - some without identifying myself. I got to experience the change in real time. I did have one guy question my shampoo bottle.

''I did see a lot of good judgment by TSO in the spirit of the announcement,'' Hawley said.

The U.S. worked with Canada to jointly implement the modification of the liquids ban.

On Wednesday, the European Union announced that its aviation security directors have agreed to implement similar liquid restrictions as the ones the TSA announced on Monday. Before the new rules can take effect, the European Commission must accept them. (Click here to see a relevant AirportBusiness.com article.) Action is expected to take place in November.

Once the rules are adopted by the EU, someone traveling from the United States to Canada and then onto London, Warsaw and Paris would have the same security rules, Hawley said.

''You would just pack the same way and expect the same security measures. From a security point of view, it is a very good thing. But it also it is better for the traveling pubic. That is the goal."

Hawley was in Reno on Thursday to discuss security issues behind closed doors with members of the Airports Council International-North America. Prior to the interview with AirportBusiness.com, he had a private breakfast briefing with about 10 airport directors.

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As the manufacturers work with the TSA to deal with the maintenance issues, software designers continue to refine and improve the computer programming behind the air sampling technology. Before any more machines are deployed, he said the maintenance issues will be resolved and more advanced software will be in place.

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